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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Feb 8, 2005 6:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipolina

It just makes sense that if the zero shows with cipolina on them are allowed, then most likely some of the others of his various groups may be allowed too

Yes it does make sense. The difference between Zero and the others is someone approached a member of Zero and got permission (Kimock), but nobody has approached Cipolina for any of his other projects. See the "Artists" list for detailed info on each one. If a band section has not been set up there, then nobody has approached them.

I wondered if any avenue had been tried before in those directions. The FAQ's on here are basic knowledge, so forgive me for seeking something, a little deeper and under the surface.

FWIW, the FAQ's will tell you exactly how to find this info, which is why Dave pointed you there. A possibly more relevant entry is this one:

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#101

What is the status of band X for the Archive?

You can check on the status of a band relative to the Archive on the Trade-Friendly Band Information page. We have 3 categories:

May be Archived- Band sections have been activated by Archive admins. Shows can be hosted here to the extent permitted by the band. Click on the band name and then their Notes link to see what limits they may have placed on taping, trading or archiving.

Pending- When a patron adds a fresh entry for an an additional trade-friendly band, the new band section is placed in the Pending category, with default status "Not contacted" in its Notes. Admins will update the contact status based on information that people send to etree@archive.org.

Opted Out- Some bands that may be otherwise trade-friendly may have explicitly said, "No, thanks" to our project. We respect their wishes. We still keep notes of their taping/trading policies for reference.

If there is no listing for a band here, maybe they are not trade-friendly, or no one has thought to create a pending section for them yet. In the latter case, chances are no one has tried contacting the band yet (or if a person has tried, he hasn't told us about it yet).

Bands, see other relevant FAQs here and here. Patrons, see more about how you can help here.


We would be thrilled if you or someone would approach Cipolina for the remainder of his projects. We hope the "stingy" rumor is inaccurate.

-Brad

This post was modified by Brad Leblanc on 2005-02-08 14:46:55

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Feb 8, 2005 9:50am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipolina

Thanks, Brad. In other words, and in not so many words, if someone wants a certain band on the archive that is not here, THEY need to do the legwork.

The admins have boatloads of work to do, and most likely aren't as familiar with the musicians/management as their biggest fans are, so they're not the best people to go blindly chasing down permission...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Feb 8, 2005 11:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

chasing down permission

Unfortunately, some of our most difficult chases have been for deceased artists. I'm not sure if we've even had any luck yet?

Besides the fuzziness of figuring out who they are and how to contact the right person(s) to speak for the deceased, it's harder to make a tactful and appropriate approach. Then, it may be much harder for the appropriate heirs/estate to work out an appropriate answer.

It's a huge difference from the "Hey man, can you tell them I can put your shows up?" tack that has worked out with several living artists here.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-02-08 19:17:41

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Poster: GreenManaleshi Date: Feb 9, 2005 12:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

i do have some connections, and i am making phone calls. i have been told so far the family is very friendly (but unfortunately, some of the people leading up to the family think they are the family, and they ain't so friendly...cracks me up). My friends were the soundboard crew for the Thunder and Lightning era, and the band, through them, allowed me freedoms with the boards. Now the head of this little sound crew, he has since died too. but i know he had tapes of alot of these shows, so i'm looking for those family members that are still around, because i know many tapes hopefully still exist.
Forgive my omission of the extra "l" in his name...my bad...i knew better...i just had a mental phart. In any case...i am pursuing.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Feb 9, 2005 2:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

Thanks for the legwork, sir! If you get any solid contacts, do point them our way at the LMA admin contact address etreeatarchive.org to work things out for here.

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Poster: zerp Date: Feb 8, 2005 6:50am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

Perhaps with the proper Ouija board, and a good psychic, one can actually talk to John Cipollina. (Note the extra "L") John passed away in 1989, before all this internet file exhange was happening.

Good news for Cipollina fans. The documentary "Electric Guitarslinger" is coming to DVD. Check out the official website for updates, and downloads. You can even view some archival video clips.

http://www.johncipollina.com/

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Feb 8, 2005 10:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

My bad, thanks zerp.

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Poster: amellowsoul Date: Apr 22, 2005 7:43pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: John Cipollina

Way past due, but here at last. Pardon my 55 hour work weeks. First item is now added.. Dinosaurs 1982-12-31. It's strangely not found by 'search', but if one goes to the artist list and go down to "Dinosaurs", it's there.. or heck, here is the link.. http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=24589&from=browsePopular

More JC recordings to come. Stay tuned you small but mighty crowd. Say, GreenM, feel free to email me if you wish to be active.. love to have you aboard. My email is found in the info .txt file of the above said show.

Best to all,
-Tom S.